My PCP air guns like FX,you can even have suppressors A Great big FU to all the powers that be And that was several months a go. It will be the right man! So all of you Trump haters & libertarians, wont even discuss progun Dems, look in the mirror. Big primer flash equaled faster powder burn which resulted in pressure signs. Democrats are Anti-American and Anti-Constitutional scum. Keep checking your trusted online distributor Powder Valley for new arrivals of primers from all four manufacturers. As a first time buyer of several week back I must say I am impressed with your company. I wasnt up to speed on Remingtons negative impact to the market. From the Distributors who sell to Retail . Thank you. $12 a sleeve, eat a dick. This cycle of shortage is going to continue until the public either changes its buying habits or stops electing control freaks who want to make our personal decisions for us. We may have a market at that price. So,,,,,AMERICA FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! While this doesnt impact our frustration it is good to understand. B. Bullspotter Private. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We dont normally get ETAs. They plan on employing more than 400 by 2023 and have plans beyond that. Because when the centerfire ammo is outrageously priced and or unavailable to practice with everyone runs for the .22! Thats how consumer economics works. Minuteman. Lets see I need shotgun, small and larger rifle and pistol. I might not be able to reload, but I will have a clean butt for the next 5 to 10 years!! If not for today, then for tomorrow. Hmmm. Biden is using the disguise of common sense gun control to move forward with a very aggressive agenda limiting our gun rights under the 2nd Amendment. See images (2) and (3) above; When will ammunition be more available and cheaper? It was fun while it lasted,RIP shooting sports,thats why Iam done with powder burners,more fun with CCI is just down the road from me. Yellow box Norinco .223 would often result in pierced primers. So it will take about 90 days to fill the one big US gov. Don't expect to see primers on the shelf this year. Ive been wondering about the reloading supply chain.Thank you for the timely and well though out article. When supply does improve, remember folks.stack it high and stack it deep. BUT.there is NO shortage of primers in Canada. In this critical time Im afraid we are going to need them more than ever Respfully. The amendment doesnt need supporting or the illusion of some patriotic hero defending it. Since so many people have lost a chunk, or all of their income, it makes sense that reloading, which saves on the cost of ammo at the expense of time, would become more popular than ever. This is why many online retailers have now chosen to limit the purchase quantities to an extreme low level in an effort to reduce this. A quick look at places like Gunbroker show plenty of primers are available unfortunately, they are often 2 to 5 times normal MSRP. Im grateful for my planning and able to sit this one out. They rot from the inside-out. You can I rest assured that folks like me, lifelong passionate hunter and guide, environmentalist, progressive, and Second supporter will never support anyone that is anti-2nd. I usually shoot about 12,000 pistol bulllets a year. Minuteman. Most new gun owners are opting for 9mm and other popular centerfire chamberings. The price went up 30-40% and stayed there. https://www.bullseyenorth.com/reloading-primers/browse/page/2. Im an avid hunter and have been now for 50 years. The fix was to slim down the tip of the firing pin and install a bushing into the bolt face to accommodate the smaller firing pin. Its like when your electricity goes out during a storm or whatever, you just dont realize how much you take flipping a switch, (or having a plentiful supply of primers to choose from), for granted until its GONE. So my small pistol primers are drying up and I am having to load 45 acp because I have 25 k of large pistol primers on hand. Sometimes can find a random bag in a Bass Pro/Cabelas in the Florida-North Carolina stretch but I have only seen 2 of them in 3 years. Available. The warts never came back but I never did that again. Cut the supply of ammo, where we can shoot & when, who can shoot, and everything (including our Rights & ways of life) slowly erodes to nothing. Expansion purchased the old Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant located 12 miles west of Texarkana, Texas that made all sorts of things that go boom for the military from World War II through the Vietnam War. one thing i have seen that pisses me off is a ton of people on gunbroker saleing primer for 100 a 1000 and up.i would stop reloading before i bought a dang thing from them.i have always bought in bulk 1000 to 5000 at a time,but i have a lot of friends that only want a few hundred at a time and they know they can get them from at what i payed for them. Magnum and std large rifle primers are the most difficult to locate, the std being the hardest. The orange one. Good, now lets hope Olin doesnt try to coerce a duopoly by threatening retaliation to any retailer that sells this new brand of components. Lead btw is one component of the primer. I hope that they are close to Winchesters line of primers sort of the Goldilocks brand not too hard like CCI, not too soft like Federal, generally. Site Links. Great article. Nr.1 certainly supports if not mandates a substantial increase in manufacturing capacity. This is why we believe this could end up being the greatest primer shortage of all time. Primers finally coming back in stock near me. Although we've spoken to a few manufacturers over the past months . Or RCBS ? I for one am not affected by this as I stocked up a Maker of COVID Tests Says Pandemic is Biggest Hoax Ever Perpetrated, Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told Canadian government officials in Alberta during a phone conference that the coronavirus pandemic is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public. Hodkinson, who is the CEO of a biotech company that makes COVID tests, says There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians. We are seeing politics playing medicine, and thats a very dangerous game., Positive test results do not mean a clinical infection, he says. My concern is the Biden far left Gun grabbers will try to control/ limit access to reloading components. Thanks for the info ,I have a little different take on the ammo and reloading supplies problem we all are facing in these dire time witch includes a new person in charge who has no respect for the constitution our country lives and dies to protect. 78. Check With Your Local Ammo. Just my opinion, but! As a SASS member I shoot and reload all my match ammo. Havent manufacturers realized this isnt a temporary bump but a new level of demand? Please let me know what I need to do or if you can help, thanks. I am thankful that most responsible gun owners do not see things the same as you and fully understand the threat that is on our doorstep. Follow my wife around and shoot. However, most people would accuse us of price gouging. Primers were available at a large sporting good, and gun shop near me as of last week. You didnt mention the political agenda of the anti gun left. First of all, thank you for your prompt attention and delivery of my recent order. I encourage all to pray and wait on the Lord. Democrats are now raving Communists hell bent on disarming the people to continue their run of corruption and selling out our country to a globalist cabal. Boo hoo . However I can never walk through a gun shop without buying somethinggood shootin. PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND PRAY AGAIN. The only hangup was that these products were available for export. Erosion is usually very slow & unnoticable until whatever was there is gone. Its gonna squeeze the major players hard, and about time. I appreciate now knowing more than I did previously. Reactions: camocorvette, GordonFreeman, orkan and 2 others. Primers; Brands. Any idea as to what the limits will be on small pistol primers and when they will become available? The pros seem to still have a bottomless supply but the rest of us will have to cut down or eliminate live fire practice. Jun 4, 2011 334 277 The use of stockpile does not lend itself to a negative implication. Gun sales on the other hand will stay big for as long as Biden is president . With little answers on the virus, its hard to see when these closures and limitations will end. And that was just the civilian market ammo. All the years of letting God be taken out of society has caught up to us but its not too late to put Him back in charge. Prepare for the next downturn. Lucky Gunner's Jake Felde said the lack of primers had the greatest impact on small ammo makers and reloaders. Dealers cant keep 9mm pistols on the shelves. I hate to say this, but American people better come together and realize that there is a push to divide us and drive us into a dark war against ourselves. Still cheaper than $2-300 on Gunbroker per 1000. That was a very comprehensive report on the primer situation. In the meantime I would encourage everyone to pray for our country and our leaders as we navigate this perilous situation. Oboma was elected no 22s Biden was elected no reloading supplies seems odd. Search Showing. But, we are very hopeful that these changes will have a positive effect on production and distribution in the long run. Thanks Ryan for update, I feel your grief as I am in the tire business and they are shortages there also, parts for cars, lumber,etc I think the whole country is scared and rightfully so! Even at that, with the shortages I guess the sensible thing to do is avoid any major shootouts. Non-corrosive, all weather primers deliver fast, dependable ignition under any shooting condition. I plan to conserve what I have, purchase at a moderate pace, as AMMO becomes available, and to scoop up any primers & powder I find available. I cut my shooting by 75%! A firearms enthusiast with a $200 hand press and other tools like a $150 electric case prepper can assemble the raw components - bullets, primers, powder, brass cases - and make them into live . Oct 2, 2011 262 83 50 Billings MT. $12.99. As for the new primer facility, it will be cranking out all sizes of primers for Expansion's ammo and also to supply several small, medium, and large ammo makers within the year. We all need to learn from the past so it wont happen in the future. Cross bows, long bows and compounds dont need primers, at least they give you something to shoot with. Gander Outdoors in Kenosha, WI reader-submitted photo on GMToday.com. Fortunately, we buy about 18 months ahead, but if things dont get better in 2021, Im not really sure what we are going to do. This is going to really hurt competition shooting. The previous shortage was a lesson learned, Something does not add up. Keeps pushing their unlawful political policy on the books with absolutely no reason or fallout to them. The people who are trying to take over American are buying them so we cant fight back. Watching our brothers running around playing Cowboy and Indians! The facility will specialize in the production of primers, a key component in ammunition manufacturing, for the small arms industry. Exactly. The Texarkana Gazette wrote about the new employer . Leftism is a mental illness fueled by an obsession to control people and shred individual liberty. Thanks for the informative article. Personally and as a nation, Vince, so true. Probably pre-covid stock being sold at replacement cost price plus markup. Straight Shooter Ammunition LLC Its very real and they have money behind them. That is usually their mode of operation. Yikes. 1 Yes weve received primers I have been a customer for a number of years . I find myself wondering, just how many loaded rounds are enough? I have a lot of brass, it makes me recall, Nature abhors a vacuum. Empty brass needs to be filled more now that we are short on components. Recently I went to Google and researched Primers for sale. For those of us, that use Powder Valley almost exclusively for components, it wold be nice if you set up a will call data base to keep customers names and contacts on file so you can contact them where you do have primers for sale. Buckle up, its gonna be a bumpy 2 years till Congress goes Rep. If they feel the government is trying to track them than have someone in here that took up knitting make you a tin yarn cap. Thanks for the explanation of where have all the primers gone ! Some modifications and restrictions in gun ownership is necessary over time to keep us safe from misuse. Walter? https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281, https://www.bullseyenorth.com/reloading-primers/browse/page/2. According to the New York Times, American gun buyers increased from 5.3% in 2019 to 6.5% in 2020 (17 million buyers). Ive talked to Canadian sporting goods companies who have reloading supplies falling off their shelves TODAY, and for great prices. In the past, i normally would buy primers 10k at a time in order to spread out the Haz Mat surcharge. This is the best news Im a reloader and like the rest primers we need. Do you have a market at that price? Very enlightening. The platform Biden-Harris ran on openly stated they have the desire to shut down interstate commerce for firearms and firearm related purchases. Good news: investors are doing just that, starting up a new company in the great state of Texas dedicated to making primers by the truckload. He boasted he would sell them at Gun Shows for100$-150$ a box.. and more. 12 cents a primer is about what I have seen for online that is in stock as well. Primer. Are you guys planning on raising maximum order back to 5000 at some point? Mostly its the 209s for shotshells Im wanting. Its very frustrating. But I doubt the gun-broker crowd are gonna let em go for what we pay. It would be great if sellers would add text alerts to their alert me when in stock system. But as a consumer now, I see what appears to be the available markets that produce ammo to obtain primers for the popular calibers. Just my thoughts. What I take away form this is the a small group of folks have taken what supplies there are and pushed them into the secondary market, just like what occurred with powder. All good news for us reloaders. They plan on employing more than 400 by 2023 and have plans beyond that. Expansion Industries, an ammunition manufacturing company whose corporate offices are based out of Carrollton, Texas, is preparing to open a manufacturing facility here. Joe toes the party line of gun bans, magazine bans, ect. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are driving public hysteria. Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is one in three-hundred thousand and it is outrageous to shut down society for what is merely just another bad flu. https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281 So to top it off we have a primer shortage due to a HOAX. I find it interesting that youre here looking for shotshell primers yet you consider our article on why there is a primer shortage and subsequent follow up to be engaging in unethical commerce. Theyre defending their interpretation of it. Ill be glad when this BS is over. Under what reason? My guns are just expensive paperweights now. We are seeing the definition of spiritual warfare taking place before our very eyes. Gold Medal Centerfire Primer .150. That will effectively end businesses like Powder Valley. Im tempted to go through the exercise of disassembling loaded 62 grain 5.56, resizing and reforming at least 500 rounds to 300 Blackout. I agree with your last statement, we need to PRAY! Im fortunate that I cast all my own Bullets . Its just too messy and complex. I cast all my own bullets and have loads of powder and brassall USELESS- without primers. Not at this time. Over the last several years, I have purchasing a sleeve (5,000) primers a year, whether I needed them or not. I have never liked the term hoarding. Primers have effected my personal production a little but not to the point where Im in trouble. I have been stockpiling. Winchester works to make sure all primers are reliable, instant and precise. I will conserve those primers. Thanks for all of the hard work you folks do. 00. dang, was thinking more of casting /testing hand rolled 12 guage slugs, Talk about shortage. Ill wonder where these will fall in the heat range. Expect prices to go up and quantities to go down. When it comes to ammunition supplies, bullets are easy to manufacture, brass can be re-used, and powder is generally stockpiled by companies (though perhaps not the kind youre looking for). This all started when Obama put a limit on the amount of lead a business can either store or order. The government is increasing the ordering of ammo! Shes saying that there are shortages of yarn like you wouldnt believe. A Corner on the Primer Market. WSL. I expect that there will be some availability in mid-December, except for that being Christmas etc. Great civilizations, societies, empires, etc. Don't know where you live but my advice would be to start looking where all the masses of people's don't. My local gun store has many tens of thousands of primers for shotgun, rifle, handgun. Thanks for the explanation of the shortage. They told me theyd be retired if they could sell to US customers online. "We have invested $100 million into the site so far," said Richard A. Smissen, owner, Expansion Industries. Our President said that He was told We have no ammunition . Thanks for the insight. At a production rate of 4 million per day, a shortage shouldnt last long. November 20, 2021 at 10:38 pm #388407. glennsevert. Wednesday, November 11, 2020. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Full Member. To make more money. Please let us put them on Backorder so when in it gets charged and ships making it easy and simple. : r/reloading. And brass. Remember the Obama primer shortage? This is all about supply and demand. See link below. Sometimes even the Catholic Nuns would join in. 99. They told me Winchester fully dedicating primer production to cartiges for rest of 2021 to meet demand. Disruptions in the supply chain have also made a big impact on the availability of primers. Someone poked themself with a knitting needle, so Congress banned them to protect us all. Once. Thank you, Thank you so much for the information about the primer shortage and other reloading supplies . Stock and conserve, bolster security, have a plan! for $120 a brick by that evening? The larger players are now on notice their gravy train is about to pull into the station. Feedback from the primer distributors - the 4 US manufacturers of primers have a daily capacity of 4.6 million. It can be done fairly easily. Remington simply did not have the financial capabilities to have an abundance of raw materials on hand and had to shutter some of their production capacity. I have three sleeves of large/Magnum primers left if anyone wants them, been selling them for 500.00 a sleeve but will do 450.00. I have plenty of powder as well but for the big cartridges but need powder for the small cartridges. Put him first and he will lead us to where we need to be! Some powders will be in stock more quickly, but we believe it will take much of 2020 to improve availability for all powders. Last fall I heard of the local Cabelas got a pallet of pistol & rifle primers in. This is so very true. Thank you for this post! For quite some time, there were virtually no primers available anywhere. I check PV everyday for a glimmer of hope for 1,000 Primers. You are the only website to furnish us with information. I mean what could possibly go wrong? At least with the hand primer I can watch a TV show and prime. So, we dont spend our morning coffee routine looking for primers. Hopefully all gun supporters will see this new administration as a supreme threat to the 2nd Amendment and interstate commerce. Keep up the fight patriots! Now, if somebody would do the same for powder. It's no secret that the demand for firearms and ammunition has reached record levels due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the civil unrest in cities around the United States, and the prospect of an anti-gun president on the horizon. What do you think a realistic time frame might be that primers will become available? . When I looked, the explosion had blown two warts that I had on my thumb knuckle off. 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